![]() So I guess the new DA or chief of police down there is going to be taking a look. I said it back then and I’ll say it today: He just didn’t do it. He did not kill all 28 or 29 or those victims. The police cleared the books of all 28 or 29 cases, and they’re saying all the cases were perpetrated by Wayne Williams. But a case like the Atlanta child murders, where there were so many bodies, I just went on down. Usually they just submit the cases to us, so they come to Quantico. He just wants to be credible in the classroom, so why not go in the prisons and conduct these interviews? I thought we could actually provide something positive to the investigation. No, when I started it was really for survival, just like Holden Ford. When you first started profiling, did you ever think it would become so important, and have this cultural fascination around it? Ahead of the book’s release on May 7, John Douglas sat down with Vulture to discuss his FBI career, why so few TV shows get serial killers right, and how he’s managed years of such horrific, emotionally difficult work. ![]() The killers in these cases are not as well-known as some of the others Douglas has interviewed (among them Charles Manson, Ed Kemper, and David Berkowitz), but they each provide an insightful example of what can be learned from profiling. In their new book, The Killer Across the Table, Douglas and Olshaker offer a behind-the-scenes look at what it’s like to conduct a profile of a killer. (Groff’s character, Holden Ford, is based on Douglas.) By talking to almost every major convicted serial killer of the past 30 years, Douglas and his team have not only played a vital role in helping the FBI and other law-enforcement communities understand violent crimes, they also, perhaps inevitably, have had an influence on pop culture’s true-crime boom. His 1995 book Mindhunter: Inside the FBI’s Elite Serial Crime Unit, co-written with Mark Olshaker, more recently led to a standout Netflix drama starring Jonathan Groff. Over the past three decades, his groundbreaking work as a criminal profiler has inspired characters in The Silence of the Lambs, Hannibal, and Criminal Minds, largely based around his interviews with imprisoned violent offenders. ![]()
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